Adele is in full-on mommy mode but is still making a little, focused time for music, says Pharrell.

“I’ve seen her recently. She’s kinda like, ‘Okay, guys, I’m gonna open my diary for 20 minutes’. So it’s like, okay, you have 20 minutes, or 32 minutes really,” Pharrell told Ryan Seacrest of working with the mega star singer during a talk at the Cannes Lions creativity festival, the Mirror reports.

The rest of the time she spends with her 2-year-old son, Angelo James Konecki, he said.

He continued. “Then she gives it to you and closes it up and disappears, and she’s off with her beautiful boy – and that’s what it’s all about.”

It has been rumored Adele’s 21 followup album will be called 25, but now that the singer is 27 — and with no release date announced — we’ll see if that title stands. Aside from Pharrell, she is said to be working with Phil Collins and producer and OneRepublic frontman Ryan Tedder.