Throughout the week, Netflix has been hyping up Jay Z’s appearance on My Next Guest Needs No Introduction With David Letterman, which is now live on the streaming platform. He speaks on Eminem and Snoop Dogg’s flows, his mother falling in love, the most beautiful thing Blue Ivy has ever said, and Trump’s presidency. Now, we have an exclusive clip of what Hov had to say about Kanye West.

“Kanye West,” Letterman asks, “are we friends?”

After the crowd laughs at the awkward question, Jay chuckles, then keeps it real: “That’s my brother, we’re beyond friends. Really, like literally, my little brother is Kanye. And like your little brother, things happen sometimes.” Letterman, ever the comedian, immediately responds: “tell me what happened.”

At that moment, Jay asks Dave if he has siblings, and if they’ve ever had a falling out. Letterman responds, “I’ll let you know when it’s over,” which Hov laughs at and then continues, “It’s like that. That’s still your sibling forever.”

“I’ve watched Kanye from without an album,” Jay adds. “The thing that I respect about him is that he’s the same person. Like, he interrupted our studio session, stood on a table and started rapping. And we were like, ‘Could you PLEASE get down,’ and he was like ‘No, I’m the savior of Chicago!’ He didn’t have a record.”